tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19705400.post6007255080829925056..comments2023-08-07T08:19:03.097-05:00Comments on ADOPTION AND ITS FOOTSTOOL: ANOTHER DEPORTATIONAmyadopteehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10954658047614318238noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19705400.post-62561216927109685892008-07-21T14:51:00.000-05:002008-07-21T14:51:00.000-05:00OMG, this is horrible! I had no idea such a thing...OMG, this is horrible! I had no idea such a thing could even happen to an adoptee. The ability to deport an adoptee just shouldn't even exist. I'm horrified that it does. I'm speechless.Snafu Suzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09797239911806023066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19705400.post-35138395992878802242008-07-20T23:41:00.000-05:002008-07-20T23:41:00.000-05:00This is where I think the JCICS and the NCFA shoul...This is where I think the JCICS and the NCFA should step up and fight for these adoptees. Granted some of these adoptions maybe illegal but the agency and the industry itself shows that its not doing things right. Its a matter of time before many of these younger international adoptees start to have issues with this as well. I don't think adoptive parents these days stop to realize that this will be an issue for them. <BR/><BR/>I don't want to alienate many of the good adoptive parents out there. It is the entitlement of adoptive parents and the adoption industry active encouragement of their attitude that is causing this. You and I both know this. After two years of research on this, adoption as a whole needs a major investigation. In order for that to be done, its going to take the resources of both the CIA and the FBI to do this. It is being done on small scale because enough adoptive parents are screaming bloody murder. I am starting to see many of these agencies being investigated and shut down. <BR/><BR/>Just looking at the COA accreditation standards tell me that they want to treat it like a mechanical business. An example of that is working at a call center. I remember we had to keep track of our statistics with our calls. They had done the research and discovered that most people can resolve these calls for revenue management (collections) in seven minutes. What they hadn't counted on was people wanting to resolve other issues in these calls. So many of us became customer service representatives as well collections representatives in those calls as well. I get the impression reading the money side of adoption is going more to that way of thinking. Sealing the deal is getting that proverbial baby from the natural parents and getting money from the adoptive parents. They will use unscrupulous tactics to get that deal done. <BR/><BR/>They want to run adoption in the most cost effective and efficient manner but they lose track that it is about children and humanity. I have heard from countless of mothers and fathers out there who have heard agency attorneys and social workers discussing adoptees and their families as product and producers and the best market for that. That is scary. We are totally ignoring the human factor.Amyadopteehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10954658047614318238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19705400.post-78491221567828339692008-07-20T21:58:00.000-05:002008-07-20T21:58:00.000-05:00Yes, I read that... but something is fishy. The fe...Yes, I read that... but something is fishy. The federal laws governing naturalization of an internationally adopted child are clear and, even before the change several years ago, it wasn't like doing brain surgery. You needed an adoption decree from the foreign country; you needed proof of your own identities, and you needed the usual home study.<BR/><BR/>Many parents rely on the foreign adoption (if the child is adopted first in the other country) and think they do not need to re-adopt in the U.S. immediately after returning home. This can cause big problems, obviously; probably waiting so many years contributed to the problem. <BR/><BR/>The worst part of this seems to be that the parents and adopted guy had nowhere to turn for help or advocacy.Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06422840187763405704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19705400.post-29997443862040329652008-07-20T21:16:00.000-05:002008-07-20T21:16:00.000-05:00From what I understand in this case and in the you...From what I understand in this case and in the young girl's case, they have been given the run around several times over with the process of naturalization. The young girl never even committed a crime here in the U.S. <BR/><BR/>I do believe in some extend the adoptive parents are to blame on this issue but when our own State Department won't help these adoptees out. I think the NCFA and the JCICS should be stepping up to help these adoptees as well. They won't because of the profit issue in this.Amyadopteehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10954658047614318238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19705400.post-64769044630750466772008-07-20T21:06:00.000-05:002008-07-20T21:06:00.000-05:00I hate to be a troublemaker, but internationally a...I hate to be a troublemaker, but internationally adopted people have always had the right to become U.S. citizens if their adoptive parents applied for citizenship before the child turned 18. Did these parents whose kids were deported not do their jobs as parents? It's hard to believe that they had as many as 17years to apply for citizenship and simply let it slip their minds. <BR/><BR/>Does anyone know if the parents applied for citizenship on behalf of their children like they were supposed to? If not, the adoptive parents are to blame--along with teh agencies, who are supposed to follow up with the parents to verify that the child has been naturalized. There's no excuse for not doing that. Then, if they applied and U.S. INS gave them problems, there should be an outcry.Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06422840187763405704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19705400.post-6397767594965180622008-07-20T18:35:00.000-05:002008-07-20T18:35:00.000-05:00The young girl in Pennsylvania is one that I do wo...The young girl in Pennsylvania is one that I do worry about. She is fifteen and will be sixteen soon. She is supposed to be deported soon. I can only imagine the horror for her. Sixteen and in a country where she doesn't speak the language. I am sure her parents will go with her but even still. We have a real problem with the adoption industry and immigration if we are targeting adoptees. They shouldn't be made to suffer like this.Amyadopteehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10954658047614318238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19705400.post-37727186953611487632008-07-20T18:21:00.000-05:002008-07-20T18:21:00.000-05:00I feel so sorry for the Mustanich family. The odds...I feel so sorry for the Mustanich family. The odds of Jess ever legally getting back into the US are very low.<BR/><BR/>Article is wrong on one point. It stated "While a 2000 law made citizenship virtually automatic for most adopted children brought into the United States, it doesn't apply retroactively."<BR/><BR/>It does apply retroactively for specific cases. This is how my daughter gained her US citizenship.<BR/><BR/>http://travel.state.gov/visa/immigrants/types/types_1312.html#3<BR/><BR/>The effective date of the Child Citizenship Act is February 27, 2001. Children who met these requirements on that date automatically became American citizens. Children who were 18 years of age or older on that date did not acquire American citizenship from the Child Citizenship Act of 2000.<BR/><BR/>The requirements are:<BR/><BR/># Have at least one American citizen parent by birth or naturalization;<BR/># Be under 18 years of age;<BR/># Live in the legal and physical custody of the American citizen parent; and<BR/># Be admitted as an immigrant for lawful permanent residenceAngelaWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06650267665190139317noreply@blogger.com